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  I decided not to go back to the KH

  by Bucholz in

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  well, as i mentioned before in one of my few other posts, i've been lurking here for some time now and finally decided it was time to face the facts and take action.. i was raised a jw (4th generation) and my parents were quite zealous when they got married.

  mom was a regular pioneer and dad was a ms. i was the little jw 'rockstar' in my congregation, got baptized at 10, was giving talks and serving as an attendant at the hall and at conventions at such an early age.

  auxiliary pioneered whenever i could.

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  jean-luc picard

  Glad you have seen the "new light" Bucholz. Enjoy your life.
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  A new term for 'just around the corner'...unbelievable. sad.

  by tresdecu in

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  heard this from a friend of a friend via an email locally circulating.

  are you ready?

  take a deep breath.... "the end of this system is just a whisper away..." from a ca talk i think, maybe even from the dc, i can't remember.

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  jean-luc picard

  It seems that alot of dubs are very excited that the end is verrrrrrrrrrrrrry close.

  I've not seen that since 1975.

  Maybe its the 2012 prophecy.

  And there has just been another earthquake: near Corsica. Scarey stuff..... I dont think.
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  I miss my dad and I can't stop crying about it

  by Velour in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so recently, i've had this urge to write to my father.

  i couldn't quite pinpoint why i would try when i know he wouldn't read it and we aren't even that close.. over the years, before i left, my father and i could not relate to each other and we quit trying.

  he was always so busy writting and preparing for talks.

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  jean-luc picard

  Velour, you are right to write to your dad. You must tell him what you told us. To bad if he doesnt read the letters

  (yes I did say letters. Keep writing). Its important for you, and for him if he did but know it.

  You never know what he might do. Maybe he'll read them in a month, or in a year.

  I miss my dad too. I would have liked him to see what I've made of my life. I would have liked him to be proud of me. But he's gone. Its too late for me. But not for you.

  Straightshooter:

  I don't think the WTS realizes the extreme hurt that they cause by their doctrine of shunning.

  I dont think they even care.
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  I prayed for a Kitty today

  by pedal power in

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  me and my wife,a non jw,took her 3 year old country cat to see the vet in edinburgh, i left her at the vets with the cat and went to work, i gave her 20 pounds and told her to get a cab into town to meet me at work.

  the vet removes the chicken bone from the cats throat,{the little bastard stole it ,when we were not looking} anyway she gets a bus with cat into town,cost only 1 pound, she does not get cab she keeps 19pounds.

  typical, only the cat manages to wriggle out the basket,on princess street, terrified runs helter skelter accross 2, 4 lane highways, avoiding buses taxis,ect, my wife terrified screaming down the phone at me,to come and protect and save her beloved cat.f__k ,my whole world was collapsing before me, i prayed that kitty would live, my wife is sensitive, and she would have been inconsolable had the kitty died on her watch, so i ran out of work, drove through red lights, and prayed,that the little cat survived.

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  jean-luc picard

  Did you pray to Bastet, protector of cats?
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  Why I didn’t left JW an don’t plan to do so

  by Lazarus in

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  2. experiences

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  in another thread i wrote: i didn't left the jw's and don't plan to do so.

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  What would you do in my situation, if you knew that leaving would slowly kill one of your most beloved people?

  Only you are in a position to answer that question Lazarus.

  No one here has the right to criticise your decision.
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  Why I didn’t left JW an don’t plan to do so

  by Lazarus in

  1. jw
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  in another thread i wrote: i didn't left the jw's and don't plan to do so.

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  jean-luc picard

  Lazarus, an interesting post. I can understand why you come to that conclusion.

  The problem is that the WT and its adherents, are manipulators.

  Stay with us or else...etc

  That is wicked. But many who come here dont know how to deal with that.

  Would it be the right thing for a wife to stay with a manipulating husband, because if she left him, he would try and make her life worse? or would it be better for her to leave, and then try and get her life back together?

  Many who come here, are trying to get their life back together, and then they move on.

  Hospitals are full of sick people. This forum "is full of sick" people. They are here for help. They will move on.They will cope. They'll probably not post here anymore. You will never know that they have won out.

  Staying in a manipulating, abusive situation, just to keep the peace is NEVER a good thing.
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  I am considering suicide...

  by Nebeska Nada in

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  under the wheels of a train.... .

  i feel really bad.... i don't want to be in the cult anymore.... .

  i was thinking about that whole meeting today.... .

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  Nebeska.....

  Many of us can understand your feelings.

  However, if you have posted them here, its because you dont really want to do that.

  Snowbird was right when she said:

  You are loved and valued.

  Do not allow the WT to take that away from you.

  Dont let the WatchTower win. Come back fighting.

  Snowboard felt the same a couple of months ago. Now his life has changed.....remarkably. Everything is possible.
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  I hate JW jargon!!! (Alternatives please!)

  by VampireDCLXV in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all of us who have any ties to the jws know that they have their own vernacular, their own slang.

  sure, there are formal titles that we can't really get away from: pioneer, ministerial servant, elder, ______ overseer, governing body, the (watchtower) society, etc.

  but there are plenty of other bits of parlance they use that i can do without.... for example:.

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  @dm6:

  go here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/211004/1/Avatar
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  European Court to favor the WT and condemns the French goverment

  by Nick! in

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  2. friends

  this news was announced today on the journal "le monde": http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2011/06/30/temoins-de-jehovah-la-cour-europeenne-des-droits-de-l-homme-condamne-la-france_1543102_3224.html#xtor=rss-3208.

  unfortunately, the european court of human rights has just condemned the french government against jehovahs witnesses.

  if you recall, the french state was claiming 23 million euro (abt 33 million us dollars) taxes on contributions received by the french watchtower during the years 1993-96, which, by now, had climbed to about 58 million euro (abt 83 million us dollars) counting interests and charges.. it is not easy to size the wt.

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  Hi Band OnThe Run.

  Is there a reason france is at the forefront? Why not Holland, Denmark, or Germany?

  The French government has lots of legistlation. I guess they try to protect naive/gulible people, and there are certainly many people taken in by dubious profiteers. So, many things are regulated in French life.

  One example among many:

  there are many who have log fires in France. Now we know that it is strongly advisable to have the cheminey swept each year. But for various reasons people dont always do it, with a risk to life and property.

  So, legally,in France, you are obliged to have it done, and have a certificate to prove it each year. But to prevent just anybody writing out a certificate, it has to be by an officially recognized cheminey sweep,who is trained, and passes a training course regularly. So his work is, theoretically, well done. If you have a fire, and cannot prove that you have had the cheminey swept, then the assurance does not pay up.

  Another example: many like so called relaxing massages today, style shiatsu. But in France, only trained, certified physiotherapists can say they give massages. ( a fine of 2000dollars and 5 years in prison could be the price to pay if you say you give relaxing massages, foot massages etc when you are not a physiotherapist). Again, extreme, but could sometimes protect some from dubious massagers who could do more harm than good.

  OK. its a way of " protecting" people. Maybe a bit extreme by some standards, but that is their culture.They do it in so many aspects of life.

  So, religious sects are the same. The government warn people of dangers of sects. And there are dangers. Many on the forum would testify to that.

  Jehovahs Witnesses are not singled out. But they are perhaps one of the more powerful groups.

  One of the things the government warns about is their tendance to issolate their children and prevent them from knowing other religious beliefs.

  So, in brief, it is a part of French culture, that has nothing to do particulally with religion, but found in many aspects of every day life.

  I hope that my explanation helps understand a little of this typically French culture. Sometimes French people think it is a good thing, sometimes they dont like it.

  I guess the French government is a little like an overly protective parent. It can sometimes seem a bit much, but their intentions are good.
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  Would you call this a sign?

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  since i decided to leave off being a jw i have been pursuing an interest in new age/celtic religion.

  i don't want anything to do with christianity any more, but don't have enough knowledge yet to completely abandon all belief in god.

  i am also averse to accepting this life is all there is since i spent half of it wasting my time as a jw.. anyway, i have found a local coven that is looking for new members and is willing to train anyone who is new.

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  jean-luc picard

  In Steve Hassans book, combatting cult mind control, he speaks about what he considered a sign, and that to join the Moonies.

  I think, as humans, we LOOK for signs: example, who hasn't thought at one time in their lives, if a certain thing happens then that means I should.....etc.

  So, in answer to your question, no I dont think it was a sign, just a coincidence.